Originally published on the website for the now defunct Hardware Media & Radio in 2005. Thanks for Dave K for letting me republish it here.
why and when did this show start?
I've always wanted to do a radio show. Well, my first semester of college I filled in for a friend's show one time but I got thrown off the air after playing an Agnostic Front song. Originally, Signifying Nothing was just a weblog. I toyed with doing it as a print fanzine for a while, but at this point in my life I don't have the time or money to put into doing a good print fanzine. I started blogging in the spring of 2004. I had just completed my senior thesis (on intertextuality and the writing of Jorge Luis Borges-Pretty soon I will have a version of this Online) and my professor, Dr. Scott Rettberg, had a weblog. At the time I was becoming more curious about blogging and new media in general. Dr. Rettberg's weblog, and a few others, inspired me to get started on my own.
By the end of that term I, and a few other classmates, decided to start blogging. Besides me, one of them still does one. I started out just doing a pretty ordinary weblog. I would comment on personal issues, political stuff, and news related to new media, music, video games, etc. Earlier this year I moved to Word Press and parked it at my own domain www.wpwend.com
After about a year of blogging, I came to the conclusion that I needed to get back into the game when it came to hardcore. I had already seen a few weblogs and webzines be upload, I was offered a position at a few even, but I wanted to do something on my own. Signifying Nothing started as a way for me to archive all of the fanzines (see next answer) I had done in the past plus some new material. After the summer of 2005 I started to put up more new stuff. This mostly consisted of record reviews and a couple interviews. I took a hiatus because of school from November to January. At that point I came back for a couple weeks and then took another month off to move Signifying Nothing to my domain and its new address at sn.wpwend.com
I began to podcast pretty much the same way I did blogging. I really liked a lot of the podcasts I had been listening to and decided I should do one. If you've listened to recent episodes you have heard me talking about some of them. After talking to a few people who already were podcasting I waded my feet into the water in February. So far I have done fifteen or so podcasts. Most of them I am very happy with. There have been a few minor technical problems along the way. I have already changed the format around a few times and am planning to do so again soon. As of August the weblog portion of Signifying Nothing will have a monthly, not weekly, update. I will upload reviews, interviews, and other stuff at that time. The podcast will still be weekly. I really like creating the show each week and work hard to improve it.
As for the name, I've had it on the back burner for a few years. When I was still considering doing a print fanzine Signifying Nothing was one of the names I thought about using. Another was Running With Scissors. I came up with Signifying Nothing while sitting in Professor Tompkins' Shakespeare class back in the fall of 2003. After a lecture on Macbeth where we had just passed by Macbeth's famous speech in V.v. I said to my friend Lauren that Signifying Nothing would be a cool name for a fanzine. It stuck with me after that I guess.
Have you been involved in anything else punk/hardcore related (bands/fanzines/show promotion)?
Over the years I have done a number of fanzines. In fact, before I was really involved with the DIY hardcore scene I had worked on a half sized fanzine the summer after eighth grade into ninth grade. I wrote articles about animal rights and typed up my tape trading list (even before I was into hardcore I was an avid live show collector-at this point my list primarily consisted of Metallica, Nirvana, Sonic Youth, and stuff like that). For reasons I can't recall I never finished it. What probably happened was that, as I got more directly involved with punk rock in ninth grade, I became embarrassed of liking metal and grunge.
A year or two later I began working on a fanzine which would use the name I had picked out a few years earlier: Assimilation Or Oblivion. I had read that name in a book about Native Americans when I was younger and it stuck with me as a pretty cool and “punk” sounding phrase. A Or O had some pretty horrible writing about The Straight Edge, animal rights, and some other more trivial stuff. There were also interviews with 25 Ta Life and h20. I was also supposed to interview Fastbreak and Mouthpiece but both interviews, sadly, feel through. I really wish they hadn't. A Or O also had a piece of fiction I had written for English class which, while pretty awful, had a few really accurate pieces of foreshadowing that coincide to the real life events almost exactly to the time “in the future.” I printed a few hundred of them and actually got rid of most of them via distros. I remember Rick Healey took a lot and that was appreciated. I started a second issue but over the winter break the next year I scrapped it and decided to start over with a new name and a decidedly more cut and paste DIY style.
Around this time I also remember having a conversation on the phone with you, Dave, where you told me to keep trying and to give doing a fanzine another shot. Thanks man.
After spending the final half of my senior year of high school interviewing bands and putting together content, What Was Said Fanzine was born. #1 came out in October of 1997 and had Hands Tied, Breakdown, One King Down, Ten Yard Fight, Uprise, and a few others. For the most part, I remember it being pretty good. I printed four hundred (I remember because I printed two hundred twice!) and got rid of them via distros and the Internet. Connections in Europe, Canada, and Australia also helped. Especially Australia.
Oh yeah, before I forget, I also did a one pager before #1. This was given out at a couple shows during the famed summer of 1997. Side a featured some awkward and random observations by me on nothing really that important. Side b featured one of our friends threatening another friend with violence for breaking edge. Twenty-six year old Bill would like to chat with seventeen year old Bill about why it wasn't a good idea to enable him by printing this.
There was also another one pager sometime in early 1998, but that only made it to a few shows. I sent a big package of them to friends in Europe and Australia too.
Later in 1998 I rechristened What Was Said as In The Blink Of An Eye Fanzine. Why I kept naming zines after NJHC records is beyond me. ITBOAE lasted two issues. The first (listed on the cover as #2 for some reason) had the Hands Tied and Uprise interviews from What Was Said plus By The Grace Of God, Weapon X, Full Speed Ahead, and others. The personal writing in this one is quite embarrassing. Following my established pattern, I did another one pager which had me ranting about “metal” in hardcore, emos, and the usual silliness from the era. I began to plan another issue which was going to have Mainstrike, Monster X, and Floorpunch. I even did ads and probably took a couple preorders. Due to a variety of personal problems, which included one near failing out of college and one really nasty and rather humiliating breakup with a girlfriend, this never really got off the ground.
Meanwhile, over winter break 1997/1998 I began doing a one pager called Broken Behind This Wall. More NJHC names. What the fuck. BBTW was in the vein of Radio Riot, although I wouldn't actually see an issue of Radio Riot until a few months later. Whoops. BBTW had interviews with By The Grace Of God (same one from above), Ten Yard Fight (why did I interview this band twice?), and Reach The Sky. After issue six I started issue seven while in a bout of serious depression. I wrote some really scathing things about various bands and people. Well, more than usual I guess. After showing it to a few friends I was told I should be “extremely fucking cautious” about printing it, so to speak. Wisely, I decided to scrap it.
A year later I decided to do another fanzine. Parade Brigade Fanzine was born. This time around, hoping to keep myself from saying anything stupid, I enlisted a few friends to join in on the fun. #1 had Floorpunch, Ensign, 97a, Spazz, DRI, Arms Reach, and The Judas Iscariot. We printed approximately five hundred and got some pretty positive reviews.
Due to personal issues we didn't do another issue for over a year. In between I did two issues of a new personal fanzine called This Isn't Me. Both are filled with my random ranting about nothing important or interesting. I burned the originals a few years ago.
Near the end of 2000, with John, myself, and Justin now all attending the same college we huddled up and got our second issue out. We reprinted old interviews with SSD and Minor Threat. We also dug up an interview with Rain On The Parade that John and Justin had done in 1997 but never released. We printed one hundred for the first show we took them to. We sold some and gave some to friends, including members of bands we had interviewed in the first issue. At least two of those people were observed tossing it in the trash after I walked away. Thanks a lot assholes. Both bands ended up being huge disappointments anyway, so whatever.
A few months later, while driving to campus with John, I decided we needed to have a new issue out for a show that Friday evening. John agreed and I got to work. Somehow, in a span of 72 hours, we put together a ten page fanzine and interviewed both Fit For Abuse and Shark Attack. The day of the show all we had to do was wait for John's personal page. I remember being pissed he was taking so long that day to send it over! Yeah, because giving him a 72 hour notice to have a drafted, edited, and finalized page is totally fair. I was such a jerk back then a lot of the time.
So issue three had Shark Attack, Fit For Abuse, and reprints of interviews with The Faith and Siege. There was also supposed to be a reprint of a Larm interview but I have no idea what happened to that or the H-Street interview I did around that time. We printed a couple hundred on the way to the show. Interpersonal, and personal, problems kept us from ever working officially on another issue. By that time I was really distancing myself from my friends who were drinking and this included the people I did Parade Brigade with. Right or wrong, we all barely spoke that summer.
Unofficially, I continued working on a fourth issue. I interviewed Eric Ozone and Dan O'Mahoney. We also had leftover interviews with Kill Your Idols, The Purpose, and a couple others that we never printed we could incorporate. At one point, I spoke to another friend about possibly having her start working on Parade Brigade, but that was more about me trying to get in her pants than anything else. I wanted to interview Out Cold and Voices Forming Weapons, but neither interview happened.
In September 2001 multiple events (not the one you are thinking of) the first few weeks of the month put a stake through the heart of the fanzine. We never officially ended it, but it was done.
I've tried to do bands over the years, but none of them ever got anywhere. I had done guest vocals for local ragers Fists Of Fury in 1997. After their singer (the person who was threatened in the fanzine above) broke edge I would always sing their covers of Bottled Violence and Straight Edge.
I've done a lot of behind the scenes stuff with booking and promoting shows but never have officially put one on myself.
Why a punk and hardcore music radio show?
Hardcore Punk is who I am. If The Dead Kennedys had not come into my life when I was fourteen I would be long dead. Doing things via podcasts and weblogs is just an extension of that. Podcasting and blogging, for the most part, is a pretty DIY venture. Of course corporations are starting to assimilate it and use “viral” marketing to trick the masses into thinking they have an effect on the popularity of something when it's popularity has already been determined and they are just using viral marketing to sucker you into thinking you have a say.
I listen to a variety of podcasts: some are musical, some political, some just do really neat things. I get my daily news from Democracy Now!. I listen to shows like Sonic Overload, Harmony In My Head, and All Go No Slow! to check out cool music. I also listen to a lot of academic and literary podcasts.
How do you decide what to play?
When I first decided to podcast I went through my collection, record by record, and picked out one or two songs I'd like to one day play. Since I do everything from mp3 I simply created a separate folder for all of these songs. I also have another folder with sub folders for bands I am going to do features on eventually. Whenever I get a new record or live show I go through it and pick out a song or two and add them to the folder. Each week when I am plotting out the show I pick some songs to play.
What kind of set up for broadcasting do you have at your disposal?
When I started doing the show the only thing I purchased was a USB mic. Everything else is freeware or open source programs. I am a big proponent of open source and so should you. I think it's a pretty “hardcore” thing. I use a few different programs to cut the show together into one file, equalize the volume levels, and some other stuff. I've got the process of creating the show down pretty well now. I can bounce between programs really quickly and get the show together easily.
What media do you prefer on your show (vinyl, CD, mp3, etc)?
Everything comes from mp3. Since my music is already stored on my desktop computer (I do all of Signifying Nothing on my laptop) it's easiest to just keep it there. I've never, besides some stupid technical mistakes on my end one week, had any problems doing this. Having everything on my computer also allows me to mix and match out songs and keep a copy of the songs I'd like to play, as I noted above, stored on my computer in a separate folder.
all know that the 1980s was the best time for punk and hardcore in
general. Now that we are more than halfway in the 00s, what time
period do you think is better: the 1990s or the 00s?
Despite the slow start for the first few years, I have to say that the 00's win easily. The nineties had some great bands don't get me wrong. But for every Devoid Of Faith, Rorschach, Crossed Out, Team Dresch, or Floorpunch you had fifty bands that sounded like Snapcase. Or worse. It was a lot harder to avoid that garbage at shows too because a lot them intermixed with the good stuff. Even into the late nineties that still happened. These days it is so much easier to avoid the dumb stuff. I'll stick to bands like Direct Control and Mind Eraser thank you very much. I can't even keep count of the amount of great bands right now, and this is coming from someone with an irrational hatred of most bands. Things are really taking a good turn. While there are regrettably a lot of dumb bands who call themselves “hardcore” who have no right to, these days you can avoid them pretty easily. That's another great thing about blogging and podcasts. I can listen to Sonic Overload each week and check out the bands Al is reviewing to see what is new and good. I've found out about a lot of good bands that way. All the emo, chugga chugga metal crap, and amazingcore trying to deceive people is not going to win as long as there are great bands like Direct Control. Seriously if you listen to a band like Direct Control and then still wanna listen to the bad stuff you just suck.
Whats the scene like in your local area?
I don't really know what is going on in Manahawkin right now. Most of the people I went to shows with have all moved, “grown up,” or just aren't all that involved anymore. A few people book local bands in Waretown, which is pretty cool. Our good friend Leslie Adam, who runs the Fate clothing store in town, books sometimes here in Manahawkin. She did the Vision show last year. Ian Dickson and some others are also booking in Toms River too. It's nice when shows are twenty minutes away instead of two hours.
What kind of reaction are you getting from broadcasting on-line? Any weird requests?
I've received a lot of praise from people who I admire. I've received kind emails from people all over the world. Nothing too negative as of yet, but I did receive some nasty comments on Signifying Nothing awhile back from some cronies of the idiots who were harassing the audio trading blog a few months ago.
No weird requests quite yet. The one thing I was worried about was labels really trying to push their stuff at me to play or get pissed if I didn't play something. For the most part, that hasn't happened. I am not playing stuff on the podcast that I don't like and no one seems to have a problem with that. I did reject and refuse to review one label's stuff because their policy about “downloading” sounded like Lars Ulrich wrote it.
Where do you think the future of Internet radio and podcasting is heading?
Well, with net neutrality potentially being gutted, DRM, the UN screwing with podcasting, and bands threatening people over blogging about their demo tapes from twenty years ago I'm sure podcasting will get mucked up soon enough.
That last one really burns me. It is no surprise when our wonderful representatives in Washington screw things up, but getting threatened by a band over a fucking weblog post really pissed me off. When will the first “punk” band sue someone over downloading? Who will be the first to get their head beat in for “leaking” a record to Soulseek?
are your favorite internet radio shows/podcasts that you listen to
I listen to a ton of radio shows and podcasts. Some of my favorites include:
- All Go No Slow!
- Democracy Now!
- Line Noise
- Harmony In My Head
- Sonic Overload
Any advice for the up and coming Internet radio DJ?
Make an effort, show your hardware